Could you be like this woman?? I can’t think of anything worse! It might just be my own personal experiences that make me cringe and worry for people who subjugate themselves and blindly follow what they’re told.
She might have the best marriage and a man who doesn’t take advantage of her loyalty and support of everything he says. I just couldn’t do it. Period.
Umm 🤔 why not??? Let’s be honest and open and stop sugarcoating what is happening with young people in haredi and hasidic communities.
I have so much to say on this. She’s literally contradicting herself several times saying it’s not an arranged marriage. But then says a matchmaker is involved, they had only a few meetings before getting engaged etc.
I find her attitude towards those who date to get married and have kids in the secular world jarring. We all ask – yes even on dating apps – what they want out of it. If they want or have kids. If they want marriage etc.
She seems to be hugely offended by the term “arranged marriage”. And claims that it’s different in her son’s community as he’s a baal teshuva. Sorry hun but I’m the daughter of both parents who are BT and that’s just not the case.
If there’s a matchmaker involved and they get engaged it’s an arranged marriage.
Clearly parents can’t fix you up if they are outside the community. So the shadchanim or someone else does. And yes of course children of BTs are fixed up by parents!
She herself commented that they were ‘fixed up’ together – so how is that not ‘arranged’??? And what pool of young women was felt appropriate for him???
This woman means well but is literally contradicting herself throughout and it’s frustrating to read.
Now that Father’s Day is over I wanted to send love and peace to all of us who either haven’t got a father, who have lost their dad, whose father was never around and to those of us who will never receive a phone call from their dad.
My father expects his kids to do the calling and always said “they know where to find me”. I can’t understand that mentality.
It’s been years since we last spoke or saw each other and unfortunately it’s been a rocky ride from day one. I’d love to say he’s been the best dad – the way so many of you are able to – but with so many kids, so little time and money, he wasn’t emotionally available to me. And he never protected us. That hurts.
Father’s Day comes and goes, year in and year out and nothing changes. And I doubt it ever will.… unless I make the initial contact and keep doing that. But don’t we all just want our parents to contact us from time to time? Maybe it’s just me.
Happy Father’s Day to all those dads who are there for your kids and who you love unconditionally. For me it was very much conditional. Once I left their way of life I was an outcast and stopped being part of the family.
Weddings happen. Bar mitzvah’s come and go. Babies are born. Relatives get engaged. A child is very unwell.
And I know nothing about any of this unless its told to me by someone who happens to mention it and expects me to know. It’s always awkward.
My dad is having a big 70th birthday event in a few days and I knew nothing about it. I only found out when someone asked me for a phone number of a relative to invite them to the party. No consideration for how that would make me feel.
I don’t know why I expect anything else. It’s been like this for years. It’s just tough sometimes… the only photo I have of the two of us and my mother is this one which was taken when I was just 19 and getting married… “You’re welcome to her” he quipped as the wedding ended.
So. Yup. It’s been a hell of a ride for decades and I’m off the train. My number has never changed. ”He knows where to find me”. But he never will. And I’ve accepted it.
“Real domestic abuse victims struggle, sometimes for years, to have their voices heard. They suffer at the hands of their aggressors, often trapped in toxic situations through lack of money, opportunities or the constraints of their culture.”
“For Heard to jump on the #MeToo bandwagon under false pretences feels like the ultimate betrayal, as did the fact that she lied about donating the proceeds of her divorce settlement to charity.”
“She gives all women a bad name, and in many ways undoes years of work building up credibility for victims of domestic violence. She claimed in her statement that the verdict was a ‘setback’ for women, but that’s not true: she is the one who has set back the cause for women. That, I’m afraid, is the hard truth she must now accept.”
This article is spot on. Thank you Sarah Vine for speaking the truth
Amber is now facing what Johnny had to live with for 6 years. In his case, it was unjustified. Amber lied and defamed him for publicity to bolster her career but, her plan backfired.
A perfect way of describing what most Domestic Abuse survivors feel about this case…
It’s not issue of gender. It was victory of good over evil. If you lie you have to pay for your lies.
Power comes from the act of abuse not from gender, race, age, position, wealth or fame.
Amber abused Johnny. Amber had power over Johnny.
Isn’t it time we buried the David & Goliath trope once and for all??
Finally! A journalist making sense! Sarah Vine watched the trial and reported truthfully! No gas lighting, no white knuckling criteria of what you need to be to be a victim, no blind eye to the fact that women can be awful, too. Imagine that. THANK YOU, SARAH.
Heard openly mocked Depp for being a “victim of abuse”
Jurors also heard a recording of Heard allegedly pressuring Depp to come forward as a “victim of domestic violence” and suggesting he wouldn’t be believed.
“Tell the world, Johnny, tell them, Johnny Depp, I, Johnny Depp, a man, I’m a victim too of domestic violence,” Heard says, before going on to challenge him to “see how many people believe or side with you.”
Jurors were played recordings of fights, including one in which Heard admitted to “hitting” Depp.
“You didn’t get punched. You got hit. I’m sorry I hit you like this, but I did not punch you. I did not fucking deck you. I fucking was hitting you.”
Heard later apologized.
Heard testified that Depp got violent during their honeymoon in 2015, after an argument over his drinking.
“He would slam me up against the wall,” she said. She said she feared Depp would kill her.
A trip to Australia, where Depp was filming the fifth installment of the Pirates of the Caribbean movie franchise, featured prominently in the trial. Depp claimed his wife threw a vodka bottle at him, severing the top of his middle right finger. Heard claimed Depp sexually assaulted her with a whiskey bottle.
“It [was] so easy for him to throw me around,” Heard testified. Depp, she said, shoved a liquor bottle “inside of me over and over again” and “said he would kill me”.
If this actually happened she would have been in hospital. The stories she’s come out with are ludicrous and lacked credibility in my personal opinion.
For everyone saying that “Now that a jury has sided with Johnny Depp, advocates say the verdict could have a chilling effect on other survivors looking to speak out against their abusers.” I say this.
Stop speaking on behalf of women like myself who have been abused while in a relationship with my ex husband.I support Johnny Depp.
He was the victim. Women always fight to be believed. This will set us back because we will be asked if we are like Amber Heard. Heard and the ACLU demonised Depp without knowing any facts. Shameful.
Sound familiar? This is what we are all told to think and in the majority of cases this will be true. However, Miss Heard has set women back a long time because now people will say “women can’t be believed. See what she did to Johnny Depp”!
And they would be right. She has unknowingly created huge problems for survivors of domestic abuse. It’s hard enough to be believed, but now it’s going to be way harder.
The circus currently going on in a court in America is unbelievable. There was a huge number of people who assumed Amber Heard was innocent, and they must be feeling so confused.
A close family member married a woman back around 2012. Within two days she completely changed and went from being sweet and kind to a violent woman.
The man in question is over 6” and well built as he spends a lot of time in the gym. The woman, his new wife, was about 5”5 and a slim build. He knew that if he retaliated he would automatically be considered the perpetrator.
She began to beat him for the smallest reason she could find. She also contacted his place of employment and told his boss that HE was being violent to her! He lost his job immediately as he was working with children.
In frustration and at his wits end, he went to his local police station to get help. He told the officer on duty what was going on.
When he told me how this police officer mocked him… laughed at the idea that a man could be being abused… I was livid. He was so ashamed and embarrassed that he simply left and went back to this abuser.
She immediately asked why he was late from work and somehow it came out that he had been to get help. I had a sinking feeling I knew where this was going.
Within a few minutes the police turned up at their apartment and immediately arrested HIM for Domestic Violence. He was handcuffed and taken to the Police Station where he was interrogated relentlessly and was made to feel like he was the abuser as opposed to the victim.
They weren’t listening. His voice.. his story… that didn’t matter. They kept him there for a short time and when he was allowed out he was was served paperwork which was a Non Molestation Order which didn’t have an expiration date. It would be in place for the rest of his life.
Men can be victims too. Women can be perpetrators. Amber Heard is a disgrace. Johnny Depp is a victim of DV.
This is Stan. I don’t know who he is but he is definitely someone who has strong opinions about this young man who is of Lebanese Muslim descent.
The way he speaks to Eliyah, originally called Ali Hassan, is absolutely disgusting. He is supposed to be an Orthodox Jew yet feels it’s okay to put this 23 year old down like this.
Mocking someone, calling them a “loser” or that he “needs to take his medication” is awful. To tell someone to shut up and stop talking is vile. If this Stan guy doesn’t want to listen to Eliyah, there’s an off button! Simple!
At 17 we all made mistakes. His one was a bigger one which spiralled. The fact was that he lied. That’s all. I think he’s genuine and I hope someone helps him out… he’s lost everything… his wife, his job, his friends and support system etc.
He has been open and honest about what he did that was wrong and I hope there’s a rabbi who will be able to convert him. My ex husband was a convert and it took over 2 years and that was without lies so it’s not a simple process….
It’s sad to see what’s happened to a young man who just wanted something that he couldn’t have and resorted to lying.
I find it so disturbing that he says he’s got countless serious threats to his life. He’s received very dark death threats and he fears for his life.
I hope his wife is getting the help she undoubtedly needs, and I hope he is also getting help for what he did and what lead him to lie to this extent.
Of course what he did was wrong and he has repeatedly apologised for it all. What does Stan and his ilk want from him?? How many more times can he keep apologising to his wife and family for what he did? And does it give anyone the right to say the things that this Stan guy says?
This is another caller called Judy who is just as bad as Stan, if not worse, as she is dismissive, patronising, puts him down in every possible way. Listening to her makes me feel ashamed to have ever been part of this world.
She doesn’t even let him speak, constantly interrupting him to the point where he becomes frustrated and defensive.
In all honesty it can be summed up as a mess! Aka a Sh-t show!!
Eliyah Hawila reportedly confirms to law enforcement he is not Jewish, and says he married Haredi woman to join the Jewish community. He says he always “felt Jewish and has a Jewish Soul”.
Hawila had reportedly given a convincing story as to why he was cut off from his family and had been affiliated with the Chabad Lubavitch branch in Texas for several years.
https://youtu.be/ak9r0p4DkTY – this is the full hour plus interview he did on a talk show. He was brave enough to take questions too.
Just a few weeks ago he married a woman who he found on the dating site “Met You At Sinai”. It seems strange that he was able to marry a Jewish woman of Syrian descent who spoke both Arabic and Hebrew fluently and no one checked to see who he really was.
Of course he is sad and seems very genuine in his desire to convert despite knowing that the Syrian community don’t accept converts. He wants to convert regardless of whether he is able to be with his estranged wife or not.
For me personally it’s not about religion. It’s about someone who has been dishonest about who he genuinely is and his background knowing that if people knew his name was Ali Hassan Hawila rather than Elijah Hawila, he would not be accepted. And that’s true.
Unfortunately his lying started off as a small lie but spiralled over a period of a number of years and everything about who he was was fake. Of course when you marry someone you should be looking into who they are and it’s sad that his wife’s family didn’t do that.
I found myself feeling compassion for him. However, at the same time I didn’t know what was true and what was another lie. I just don’t know what to believe. And that’s painful for him. No one knows what is true and what is yet more lies.
I genuinely wish him all the best and respect the fact that he went on a public show and told his story. Not many people have the courage to do that. I wonder what his future holds.
My comment was in response to an extremely violent attack that an ex-NFL player did to his partner in front of their baby…. It wasn’t about ME! I was just mentioning my story to give people an understanding as to why I felt the way I do.
And this is why so many victims/survivors don’t speak out! The disgusting comments aimed at me doesn’t shock me as it’s not something new for me personally.
I also find it interesting that the assumption made by many when you use the phrase “Domestic Abuse” is physical violence. The ignorance is astonishing. There are so many other forms of abuse… financial, emotional, psychological, sexual, coercion, isolation, etc.
However, for someone who reads them and is in a vulnerable situation this could really affect them. Please be kind on social media. Words carry weight. And words hurt.
Hiding behind a screen victim blaming is the behaviour of a coward and deeply disturbing. Period.
Here’s New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist preacher Jonathan Shelley just going on a wildly anti-Semitic rant in church yesterday.
The assumptions are ridiculous and he’s so full of anger it’s wild. Does he know that other races are doctors and lawyers?
Study and learning are valued by many people, including Jewish people. Does he hate all Doctors and Lawyers or is it just the Jewish ones??
If there was a god and they healed people there would be no Doctors. We wouldn’t need them!
However disturbing it is to hear someone so blatantly hating the Jewish Community, it’s also good that it’s been recorded and put online so people know what this man is about
A genuine Christian wouldn’t hate other people just for existing and being themselves. He is a disgrace and shouldn’t be associated with genuine Christians who are about love and compassion and respecting others. Not about hate.